FidoNews · Vol 24, No 34 · 20 Aug 2007
The F I D O N E W S Volume 24, Number 34 20 Aug 2007
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Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
When we were pioneers .................................... 2
3. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................ 5
FidoNet Software References .............................. 5
4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 10
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 10
5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12
How to Submit an Article ................................. 12
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 14
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses
both.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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When we were pioneers
Richard Webb, 1:116/901
I started putting hands to keyboard composing this article some months
ago and then laid it aside. Business and other projects demanded my
attention and it became one of those things I'd eventually finish and
submit to fidonews.
As I note the dearth of original content in the snooze other than the
nodelist stats and fidonet software listings most weeks I thought it
was time I put my efforts into polishing it and getting it ready for
submission. The issue I just finished reading was the catalyst for me,
as well as some recent echomail I've seen.
First to fidonews 2433 which I just finished reading. The article on
nodelist discrepancies was quite enlightening as I'd never really
thought about it before. But, before I read that article I read Jeff
Smith's piece on death and his comments about those who complained his
echomail in the fidonews article on the bridge collapse and feeling of
loss was off topic for that echo.
Then I got to contemplating the echomail I'd seen. A moderator
complains to the keeper of the echolist that "you hijacked my echo" to
which the echolist keeper responds that said moderator did not submit
his update in a timely fashion. Not just has this schoolyard bickering
occupied the echo in question but has spilled over into at least two
other echoes. It might be worth saying at this point that the policy
and guidelines for keeping ones echo listed are published and widely
available. If said moderator didn't follow them, then, "you snooze,
you lose."
It would seem to me that the matter of nodelist discrepancies however
is something we should be discussing, and solving. Logistical issues
regarding building and maintaining our network are far more important
and worth our effort.
For many reasons I recently decided to put a fidonet node up again.
Eventually I plan to make it available via telnet, and not just over a
plain old telephone line via modem as it is now. That tells you
brieflly about me, and now I can get to the point of this article.
Often as I look through the fidonet traffic through my system from the
overnight hours I note the dearth of activity in most of the echoes.
The email link I have through fidonet is much more reliable than my
dial-up internet connection however, and there's always one or two
internet emails contained in it. I'll read over the White House press
releases; stats; and new file announcements in the relevant echoes and
hearken back to the day when my BBS was the connection to the internet
for many in southeastern Iowa circa 1995 to 1997.
I think back to those days when we were often the only connection our
local users had with the internet thanks to uucp, when local users
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kept our phone lines busy and there was a lot of traffic. We were the
first introduction to email and online resources for many of these
users, and when they moved on to a local internet service provider
many never called their friendly local fidonet board again. Often when
they did call back a few months later they found the canned voice of
the phone company automation telling them that this number is no
longer in service, or no BBS there to interact with. If they bothered
to call back at all they found when they got no answer that they were
missing something that was as valuable as what they got from their
internet connection.
If you take a moment or two to consider that last statement you'll see
what they're missing. I don't have to tell you, the fidonet sysop who
still is active, what they miss, but for the casual reader of the
snooze and the sysop who's thinking about pulling the plug maybe a
reminder is in order.
They missed that interaction with a human who provided their link.
When you call your internet service provider to discuss a technical
problem chances are good that your call is answered by a person who
may as well have no name or no face so far as you're concerned. ThIs
person may be on the other side of the world, and has to hurry through
your call because others are waiting, and if they take too much time
to answer your questions and help you solve a problem they're not
considered productive enough and will find themselves once again
searching for employment. Often such folk aren't able to provide
assistance beyond the canned script they've been provided.
Contrast that with the user who interacts with his friendly local
sysop who might just be able to suggest a shareware utility to solve a
problem, or the friendly text of another echo participant who can help
you find that needed tool or suggest a technique. Yes I know, there
are friendly people on web boards and in usenet newsgroups too, and
I've interacted with many. Yet web boards are often slow to load with
too much advertising, popups and fraught with dangers from malicious
spyware and other nasties. Contrast that with your friendly fido
system on the web or dialed into on your telephone line running Remote
Access or Maximus etc. Your friendly fido sysop vets his files
available for download and weeds out anything malicious, makes sure
that things run smoothly and the mail moves. eMail from my fidonet
connection is much more reliable than my regular internet service
provider, and this is one of the big players in the game here in the
U.S.
Many of us blazed the trail, and still offer that same spirit of
friendliness and an interest in the avocation of running our systems.
Though our echoes aren't as busy as they were in days gone by and our
phone lines no longer hum with so much traffic that users had to fight
to get in between busy signals we still offer something often missing
from those internet java based chat rooms and usenet newsgroups
plagued with endless flamewars and spam. We offer a sense of
community, some friendly text to help solve a problem, and the ability
to log on, get to what interests you and log off without worrying
about trojans and other malicious software. In fact, on certain boards
I'm sure that the juvenille users can even find some interaction with
others safely, as our sysops make sure that the younger users can't
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access anything they shouldn't.
As with many articles, this one is going to ask you to do something.
Don't jump ahead just yet, but consider for a moment what I'm asking
you to do. Next time somebody in your presence complains about that
slow to load web site with the discussion areas all based around the
java and popups remind them that back in the day when the internet was
only available to folks at military research centers and large
universities, tinkers such as Tom Jennings were developing fidonet as
we know it, and their friendly fidonet BBS is still accessible and
available, whether through telnet, their web browser or on a dial-up
connection.
Yes you can put ads up at the local computer shop and get listings in
places such as google, but the users only show up when they know
they're getting something that isn't available somewhere else. So,
talk up your favorite fido board, even if it's your own, at work, at
school, while watching your child's soccer game. Explain the
advantages of offline readers to those without cable modems and dsl.
Talk about the extra measure of safety they can feel when downloading
files from their friendly fidonet board where chances are pretty good
they've been checked for nasties before being offered to the public
for download.
Regards, Richard
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ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/
| | maloff@corbina.net
| | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated)
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003
Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
(based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005
Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70
| |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English)
(based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru
| | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
| | Website is in Russian only
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10
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FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org
| | support@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | Lanuis site redirects to above
| | Squish is part of Maximus.
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
EZYCom BBS |BT |http://ezycom.sytes.net
| |http://members.westnet.com.au/centuryp/
| | ezycom@westnet.com.au 3:690/682
| | v2.0 on 3 May 2003
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/
| | v3.03
| |Archives back online at:
| |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002
| | [Note: No Longer under active
| | development.]
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
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Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | Last Update: August 2004
Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net
Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
| | Website is down after
| | past the splash page.
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de
| |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm
| | (English Version)
| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13
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CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only)
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | (Site is in German Only)
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004
| | Download Page comes back 404 not found.
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GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard
Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys
| | are now available. Donations accepted.
| | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program)
Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net
| | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230
| | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway
| | Program.
Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/
| | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan
| | @spamgourmet.com
| | Fido: 2:350/5
| | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <->
| | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system.
MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl
| | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com
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| | Fido: 1:229/2000
| | FidoNet Nodelist Processor
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National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
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File Archives:
http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net
http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi
http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access
(use ftp:// instead of http:// above)
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Please send corrections & additions to: Robert Couture, 1:229/2000
E-Mail: rpa4email (at) rogers (dot) com
Telnet: runekeep.darktech.org
(Leave Feedback as Guest or create an account)
Emeritus: Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich
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SPECIAL INTEREST
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.229
size 616.2kb
date 2007-08-17
The nodelist has 5091 nodes in it
and a total of 6866 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
42 regions
311 hosts
337 hubs
admin overhead 696 ( 13.67 %)
and 636 private nodes
220 nodes down
223 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1079 ( 21.19 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 423 ( 8.31 %)
9600 = 3906 ( 76.72 %)
(HST = 79 or 2.02 %)
(CSP = 0 or 0.00 %)
(PEP = 1 or 0.03 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.03 %)
(V32 = 1966 or 50.33 %)
(V32B = 100 or 2.56 %)
(V34 = 2698 or 69.07 %)
(V42 = 2242 or 57.40 %)
(V42B = 108 or 2.76 %)
2400 = 35 ( 0.69 %)
1200 = 5 ( 0.10 %)
300 = 722 ( 14.18 %)
ISDN = 349 ( 6.86 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 1533
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 2
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XP Seadog 2
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XR Opus 1.03 25
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XW Fido >12M 204
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 2007
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 1310
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CrashMail capable = 1861 ( 36.55 %)
MailOnly nodes = 2856 ( 56.10 %)
Listed-only nodes = 425 ( 8.35 %)
Other = -51 ( -1.00 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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How to Submit an Article
If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here
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