FidoNews · Vol 20, No 10 · 10 Mar 2003
The F I D O N E W S Volume 20, Number 10 10 Mar 2003
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Copyright 2003 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.
Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. INSIDE ................................................... 2
The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2
3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 3
A 25th anniversary passed by unnoticed ................... 3
4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 5
Attitude Adjustment ...................................... 5
5. FIDONET NOTICES .......................................... 7
The FTSC-Chair election has come to an end ............... 7
6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 8
Further adventures of Fidodog ............................ 8
7. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 9
AT&T ..................................................... 9
8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 12
FIDONet Software References .............................. 12
9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 17
10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 22
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 22
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 24
How to Submit an Article ................................. 24
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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There's 2 possible outcomes: If the result confirms the hypothesis,
then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the
hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.
-- Enrico Fermi
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INSIDE
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The Fidonews at a Glance
In the editorial this week, a couple of words about the BBS getting
rather old, this in "A 25th anniversary passed by unnoticed".
Warren Bonner in his column has a list of 25 "Attitude Adjustment"
he wants to suggest.
Ward Dossche reports on the results from "The FTSC-Chair election
has come to an end".
In the "Further adventures of Fidodog", the poor creature has some
more problems this week. As usual from the drawingboard of Frank Vest.
Finally there's a suggestion on how to handle those annoying
salespersons that always manage to call in the middle of dinner, this
in "AT&T" from Warren.
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EDITORIAL
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A 25th anniversary passed by unnoticed
On February 16th, 1978, the world's first BBS opened in Chicago, IL,
USA. Or rather a CBBS, Computerized Bulletin Board System, as it was
called.
The "inventors" of this novelty were Randy Suess and Ward
Christensen. Randy did the hardware and Ward the software. And yes,
it's the same Ward that wrote the Xmodem protocol.
In the words of Randy:
"The original CBBS consisted of a S-100 motherboard picked up at
some fleamarket. This was a "kit" of course, so I had to solder all
the connectors. (lotsa soldering done in those days, such as 8 k
memory boards filled with 1kX1 chips)
It was mounted on a BUD chassis with a single density 8 inch floppy
drive. On the motherboard was some 8080 cpu (upgraded to a Z80) a
Hayes 300 baud modem card, a 3P+S board with the parallel port used
for control signals, a Processor Technology VDM video display card,
and an 8k memory board. There was also a card with 8 1702 EEPROMS
that held the CP/M BIOS, video display drivers, and debug code, all
written by Ward. I had a EPROM burner, and Ward made sure all the
BIOS variables and experimentor stuff ended up in the last 1702.
Musta re-programmed that sucker 10 times a week for a few months.
The floppy drives of that time had 117vAC running the spindle
motor, and the drive would wear out quickly. So I built a circuit
on a prototype board that would turn on the system power when a
ring signal came in from the modem card and do a reset of the
computer. By the time the drive spun up, the software had answered
the phone and booted CPM and CBBS from the floppy. (simple power
fail system!) The circuit board also had some 555 timers, so when
the caller went away, the drive motors would continue to spin for
about 10 seconds to flush out any data, then shut the system down.
I had an old Heath chart recorder I hooked across the floppy drive
motor and set up the chart speed for 2 days per sheet. Was able to
determine the calling patterns from the chart.
From the 173k single density single sided floppy, we went to a pair
of them, then to double density double sided drives. Bout a year
later, moved CBBS to a NorthStar Horizon cabinet with a 10 meg
seagate hd. Both those systems are still sitting around someplace.
It is now running on a PC clone motherboard still running CP/M with
the original 8080 assembly code! The clone board has a V20 chip,
which fully supports the 8080 op codes. Ward wrote a wrapper around
CP/M-CBBS, and CBBS has been running that way for over 15 years."
Yes, things have really come a long way since those days. And the
CBBS became the BBS. But no doubt, this 25-year old has meant a lot to
data communication. Most modem manufacturers had some kind of sysop
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deal, because they realized, that by far the best way to test a modem
and it's compatibility with other brands, was to put the modem to
answer thousands of incoming calls to a popular BBS.
Nowadays, when most of our former users are spending their time
surfing the web rather than calling their local BBS, our phone lines
are silent most of the time, except for the occasional call to our
uplinks to get the mail, and, for some, a few calls from our downlinks
for the same reason.
Sometimes an old BBS user finds the phone number to his/her old BBS
in a terminal program's phonebook, and tries it out to see if it still
works. Sometimes, to that user's big surprise, everything works
exactly as it did when he/she left the BBS several years ago, only
magnitudes faster.
Unfortunately it usually ends right there, or possibly after a
couple of more calls the next few days. After all, what can be
expected? All the former BBS friends are long gone, and the old local
favourite echoes have their last message dated four-five years ago.
Let's face it, the BBS, at least the original, dial-up version, is
most likely an endangered species, so the question is, who'll have the
last working ditto running, and when will that sysop pull the plug?
Can the last one left please turn out the lights and lock the door?
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OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
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Attitude Adjustment
wdbonner@pacbell.net
1. The best way to get even is to forget...
2. Feed your faith, and your doubts will starve to death...
3. God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts...
4. Some folks wear their halos much too tight...
5. Some marriages are made in heaven, but they ALL have to be
maintained on earth...
6. Unless you can create the WHOLE universe in 5 days, then perhaps
giving "advice" to God, isn't such a good idea!
7. Sorrow looks back, worry looks around, and faith looks up...
8. Standing in the middle of the road is dangerous. You will get
knocked down by the traffic from both ways.
9. Words are windows to the heart.
10. A skeptic is a person who.. when he sees the handwriting on the
wall claims it's a forgery.
11. It isn't difficult to make a mountain out of a molehill just add a
little dirt.
12. A successful marriage isn't finding the right person- It's BEING
the right person.
13. The mighty oak tree was once a little nut that held its ground.
14. Too many people offer God prayers, with claw marks all over them.
15. The tongue must be heavy indeed, because so few people can hold
it.
16. To forgive is to set the prisoner free, and then discover the
prisoner was you.
17. You have to wonder about humans, they think God is dead and Elvis
is alive!
18. You'll notice that a turtle only makes progress when it sticks out
its neck...
19. If the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, you can
bet the water bill is higher.
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20. Give God what is right, not what is left.
21. Don't wait for six strong men to take you to church.
22. Plan ahead, it wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.
23. Never give the devil a ride, he will always want to drive.
24. Suffering from truth decay? Brush up on your Bible.
25. Exercise daily, walk with the lord.
Remember, Compassion is hard to give away, because it keeps coming
back to you.
Warm Regards, Ol'wdb
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FIDONET NOTICES
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The FTSC-Chair election has come to an end
By Ward Dossche, 2:292/854
The FTSC-Chair election has come to an end. There was one candidate:
Scott Little.
11 people cast their vote as per the election rules. These are the
names:
Carol Shenkenberger
Jesper Sörensen
Michiel Broek
Werner Dworak
Haakan Karlsson
Alex Shakhaylo
Jasen Betts
Michiel van der Vlist
George A. Roberts
Andrew Clarke
Tobias Ernst
One person did cast a vote in a different way than required by the
election rules and his vote is hereby nullified. This nullified vote
came from Dale Ross who voted in an FTSC-echo while votes had to be
sent via netmail or email. Dale Ross did not take corrective action
nor did he complain about his vote being nullified, so I assume he's
happy with that.
The 11 valid votes were all in favor of the one candidate Scott
Little.
Since 11 votes on 11 constitutes a plurality as per FTA1001 Scott
Little is hereby the winner of the election.
A period of complaints and appeals now starts for people who feel one
or the other aspect of this election has been conducted in an unfair
manner, i.e. not as per FTA-1001 and/or not as per the published
election rules.
This period of complaints will end on March 30th 23h59 at which time
Scott Little may consider himself appointed chair of the FTSC for a
period of 2 year.
[Published simultaneous in FTSC_PUBLIC, FTSC and FIDONEWS]
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COMIX IN ASCII
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Further adventures of Fidodog
_____________________________________________________________________
|As we look in on our / | _____________ | Yes, Sweet Mooly |
|hero _______________| | |Sweet Mooly's| | Cowbread is indeed in |
|____/ | | in trouble, | | trouble. |
___________________ | |____ I fear__| | The evil Viru...... |
|Hark! What's that I| | / \/____/ | (WhirrrrrRRRrrrr) |
| hear?? ___________| | /|OO \ | <SNAP!!!> |
|________\ __ | (_| /_) |_______________________ |
/ \ _ | _`@/_ \ _ | ||
/|oo \ \\ | | | \ \\ |# # # # # # # # # # # #||
(_| /_) )) | | (*) | \ )) | ||
))____@/_____// | |__U__| / \// | ||
\_____ \__(( | _//|| _\ / |# # # # # # # # # # # #||
HELP!! \___________/ | (_/(_|(____/ |_______________________||
_/_______________________|__________________|________________________|
| |
_____________________ Fwap! | /^^^^^^^\ |
/ | / \Test / \ |
# # # # # # # # # # #\ Fwap! | / \ / \ |
/ | / Test\ /Test \ |
/ Fwap! | (-------*-------) |
\ | \ Test/ \Test / |
# # # # # # # # # # #/ Fwap! | \ / \ / |
_____________________\ | \ / Test\ / |
Fwap! | \vvvvvvv/ |
______________________________|______________________________________|
____________ ||I told that idiot not to use film! /|
We're sorry.\___ __ ||The WWW is the way to go nowadays!!| |
Due to technical\/ \ ||___________________________________| |
difficulty, the /|OO \ | ___________________________________ |
Fidodog show / (_| /_) | |It was fine until he used bubble ||
scheduled for\ _`@/_ \ _ | |gum to splice the film. ||
today has been|| | \ \\ |/____________________________________||
canceled. / | (*) | \ ))| _____________________________________|
____________/ |__U__| / \// ||We have to get Fidonet on the WWW! /|
_//|| _\ / || FIND ME ANOTHER SYSOP!!! | |
(_/(_|(____/ ||___________________________________| |
______________________________|______________________________________|
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CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES
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AT&T
wdbonner@pacbell.net
The phone rang in the middle of dinner again the other night. I know
they're just trying to earn a living, but I was trying to eat my
dinner!
Ring
ME: Hello.
AT&T: Hello, this is AT&T.
ME: Is this AT&T?
AT&T: Yes, this is AT&T.
ME: This is AT&T?
AT&T: Yes, this is AT&T.
ME: Is this AT&T?
AT&T: Yes! This is AT&T, may I speak to Mr. Byron, please?
ME: May I ask who is calling?
AT&T: This is AT&T.
ME: Ok, hold on.
At this point I put the phone down for a solid 5 minutes thinking
that, surely, this person would have hung up the phone. I ate my
salad. Much to my surprise, when I picked up the receiver, they were
still waiting.
ME: Hello?
AT&T: Is this Mr. Byron?
ME: May I ask who is calling, please?
AT&T: Yes, this is AT&T.
ME: This is AT&T?
AT&T: Yes, this is AT&T.
ME: The phone company?
AT&T: Yes, sir.
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ME: I thought you said this was AT&T.
AT&T: Yes, sir, we are a phone company.
ME: I already have a phone.
AT&T: We aren't selling phones today, Mr. Byron. We would like to
offer you 10 cents a minute, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a
year.
ME: Now, that's 10 cents a minute, 24 hours a day?
AT&T: (getting a little excited at this point by my interest) Yes,
sir, that's right! 24 hours a day!
ME: 7 days a week?
AT&T: That's right.
ME: 365 days a year?
AT&T: Yes, sir.
ME: I am definitely interested in that! Wow!!! That's amazing!
AT&T: We think so!
ME: That's quite a sum of money!
AT&T: Yes, sir, it's amazing how it adds up.
ME: Ok, so will you send me checks weekly, monthly or just one big one
at the end of the year for the full $52,560; and if you send an annual
check, can I get a cash advance?
AT&T: Excuse me?
ME: You know, the 10 cents a minute.
AT&T: What are you talking about?
ME: You said you'd give me 10 cents a minute, 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week, 365 days a year. That comes to $144 per day, $1008 per week and
$52,560 per year. I'm just interested in knowing how you will be
making the payment.
AT&T: Oh, no, sir. I didn't mean we'd be paying you. You pay us 10
cents a minute.
ME: Wait a minute, how do you figure that by your saying that you'll
give me 10 cents a minute, that I'll give YOU 10 cents a minute? Is
this some kind of subliminal telemarketing scheme? I've read about
things like this in the Enquirer, you know.
AT&T: No, sir, we are offering 10 cents a minute for...
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ME: THERE YOU GO AGAIN! Can I speak to a supervisor please?
AT&T: Sir, I don't think that is necessary.
ME: I insist on speaking to a supervisor!
AT&T: Yes, Mr. Byron. Please hold.
At this point, I begin trying to finish my dinner.
SUPERVISOR: Mr. Byron?
ME: Yes?
SUPERVISOR: I understand you are not quite understanding our 10 cents
a minute program.
ME: Is This A T & T?
SUPERVISOR: Yes, sir, it sure is.
ME: (I had to swallow before I choked on my food. It was all I could
do to suppress my laughter and I had to be careful not to produce a
snort.) No, actually, I was just waiting for someone to get back to me
so that I could sign up for the plan.
SUPERVISOR: Ok, no problem, I'll transfer you back to the person who
was helping you.
ME: Thank you.
I was on hold once again and managed a few more mouthfuls. I need to
end this conversation. Suddenly, there was an aggravated but polite
voice at the other end of the phone.
AT&T: Hello, Mr. Byron, I understand that you are interested in
signing up for our plan?
ME: No, but I was wondering - do you have that "Friends and Family"
thing because I'm an only child and I'd really like to have a little
brother...
AT&T: click........
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BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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-=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
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|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
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Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10
Stephen Proffit | | beemail@gexonline.net
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/
| | maloff@corbina.net
| | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000
Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com
Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com
| | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net
| | v1.4b2 on Feb 25th 2003
InterMail, InterEcho,|MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133
Allfix | | sales@ifido.com
| | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF
Radius (based on |M |http://fido5012.narod.ru/ 2:5012/38
Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003
Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com
| | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002
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Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.4
FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org 2:280/1076
| | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://www.lanius.com
| | sales@lanius.com v1.11
| |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/
Synchronet BBS |TB |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002
Watergate |TUI |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/
| | ramon@sbbs.se
| | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
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BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
Falken BBS |B |http://falkenbbs.com
| | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://www.lanius.com
| | sales@lanius.com v3.01
| |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
| | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
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Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
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Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | last update: Jun 2002
BBS Central |D |http://www.rpcomputers.com
Bentstone |D |http://www.srupc.com/mall
Capabilities Group | | info@stonebenders.com
Cheepware: |D |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/
Sean Dennis | | hausmaus@midnightshour.org 1:11/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
Elysium Software |D |http://www.elysoft.com
| | mpreslar@mailcity.com
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
JNS Software: |D |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/
Rusty Johnson | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
| | Tel: (304) 733-0113
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
LORD (Legend of the |D |http://www.lordlegacy.org
Red Dragon) Reborn | | mike@lordlegacy.org
| | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001
Lord-II IGMs |D |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/
PC Pursuits |D |http://www.pcpursuits.com
| | brucep@pop.kis.net
| | Tel: (301) 240-6653
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
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| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
(various) |D |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/
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APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de
| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002
OpenXP/16 |P |http://www.openxp16.de 2:2433/460
| | my@openxp16.de v3.40 RC3 Apr 28th 2002
CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
PPoint |P |http://www.alcuf.ca 1:249/114
| | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000
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GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
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GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
PeopleComm Terminal |CUI |http://www.peoplecomm.org 1:128/148
(BBS & Telnet w/ | | edward.williams@adelphia.net
ZModem) | | v1.01a on Feb 11th 2003
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs provided by FidoTel.com
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 | Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 | Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 | Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 | Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 | Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 768k | FREE
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 | Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 | Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
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229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/68 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|?
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|??
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Göran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
2800/14 | Aleksandr Galiyev | BinkP,ifcico,VMoT| T1 | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free
--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
* QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
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Fidonet oriented news servers
nntp://news.fidotel.com (provides user access to Z1B & WWB)
nntp://news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net
nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro
nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)
irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb
irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb
irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido
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SPECIAL INTEREST
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.066
size 1009.7kb
date 2003-03-07
The nodelist has 8911 nodes in it
and a total of 11687 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
60 regions
445 hosts
617 hubs
admin overhead 1128 ( 12.66 %)
and 987 private nodes
289 nodes down
372 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1648 ( 18.49 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 720 ( 8.08 %)
9600 = 7734 ( 86.79 %)
(HST = 167 or 2.16 %)
(CSP = 1 or 0.01 %)
(PEP = 11 or 0.14 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.01 %)
(V32 = 4189 or 54.16 %)
(V32B = 421 or 5.44 %)
(V34 = 5141 or 66.47 %)
(V42 = 4238 or 54.80 %)
(V42B = 444 or 5.74 %)
2400 = 87 ( 0.98 %)
1200 = 7 ( 0.08 %)
300 = 363 ( 4.07 %)
ISDN = 838 ( 9.40 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3086
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 11
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 45
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XW Fido >12M 351
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 3989
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 1416
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CrashMail capable = 2790 ( 31.31 %)
MailOnly nodes = 4867 ( 54.62 %)
Listed-only nodes = 705 ( 7.91 %)
Other = 549 ( 6.16 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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