FidoNews · Vol 14, No 29 · 21 July 1997
F I D O N E W S -- Volume 14, Number 29 21 July 1997
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WAS IT THE FULL MOON?
Table of Contents
1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
Will a shorter Issue make for more readers? .............. 1
2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
Re: Guest editorial of issue 14-28 ....................... 2
3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4
A Users Manifesto ........................................ 4
REAL_FREE_SPEECH Echo .................................... 4
4. ARTICLES ................................................. 7
SIX MONTHS OF FIDO: nodelist day 313 1996, to day 122 1 .. 7
Re: FidoNet: Past and Future ............................. 8
5. COLUMNS .................................................. 11
FidoNet in Europe ........................................ 11
6. GETTING TECHNICAL ........................................ 12
Subject: Nodelist flags .................................. 12
7. NET HUMOR ................................................ 15
If Klingons Wrote Code ................................... 15
8. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 16
Hurry, before you're banned! Use FIDOTEST ................ 16
9. NOTICES .................................................. 17
Future History ........................................... 17
10. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................ 18
Latest Greatest Software Versions ........................ 18
11. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ..................................... 22
FidoNews PGP public-key listing .......................... 22
And more!
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 1 21 Jul 1997
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EDITORIAL
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Here's the test, then. [grin]
This should be half to one third the size of usual editions. Must be
those summer doldrums.
More Echomail war stuff. Some new technical stuff still coming in
spite of FTSC limbo. Our Europe columnist returns today. Our other
columnist is moving and we all know what a pain that can be.
The Future History section is shrinking as events pass by. If you have
something you want there, send it in.
Don't forget the many ways you can get your input into FidoNews. All
the ways are detailed every week in the Masthead at the end of each
Issue.
And where is Doc Loggerhead?
C.B.
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Re: Guest editorial of issue 14-28
by Damien Wellman
damienw@juno.com
I've been keeping a letter to FidoNews on the back burner for quite
some time, but I've hesitated. The guest editorial of issue 14-28
prompted me to finally speak my piece.
To the anonymous author of that editorial, thank you. I've wanted to
say exactly what you did. I think the idea is fantastic; the Internet
isn't a giant monolith, after all, it is "merely" a giant network of
other networks. As Fidonet is the oldest and (IMHO) best of all the
amateur nets, it's really a crime NOT to hook Fido up to the Internet.
After all, while Netmail is not that great anymore (thanks to the
wide availability of Internet email) Echomail and file echoes are,
again IMHO, two of the best things about Fidonet. Echoes, unlike
Usenet newsgroups, are better moderated, nearly spam-free, and unlike
the commercial services, moderators don't have to worry about losing a
job because they threw someone who was excessively annoying out of the
echo... who just happens to be a paying customer. (AOL is very bad at
this.)
Plus, access to most BBSes is free or extremely low-cost... and
unlike the Internet, will have more people local to you. After all,
you can't talk much about a local flood in a newsgroup, but on a local
BBS you can. And you'll have Fidonet as well... and under the two-
line scheme proposed in the 14-28 guest editorial, the user can use
Internet services as well, all for a fairly low cost. If it costs the
sysop $25 a month for simple dial-up access, and each user pays even
$15 a _year_ for this access, you don't need too many users to keep
the costs down. It'll still cost the sysop some money - that's why
this is a hobby rather than a business - but it won't be exceedingly
pricey.
I think lots of people would flock to Fidonet if they _only knew it
existed_, and if it was easily accessible via internet (hence the
transferring of mail packets through FTP rather than phone lines). In
fact, the idea is very simple; keep the current process, changing ONLY
the method of transportation. All that needs to be done is write
software that is geared towards receiving it via FTP or similar rather
than a phone call. It may not be THAT much of an "only", but it's
hardly an insurmountable task.
All I can say is this: all of the expert programmers and hackers out
there should get cracking and figure out how to do this. Better yet,
let's see if someone can do better than the currently-available
kludges. There's no reason for Fidonet and BBSing to die out - it
must simply adapt to a new set of conditions. Let's see if we can get
a _growth_ in total number of nodes for once.
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 3 21 Jul 1997
Oh, and Chris - hope you don't mind my use of Tom Jennings' quote
that appears in the end of Fidonews... hell, I hope *Tom* doesn't
mind. :)
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"Disagreement is actually necessary, or we'd all|MegaZeux |
have to get in fights or something to amuse |Quake |
ourselves and create the requisite chaos." |GURPS |
-Tom Jennings /---------------------------------+Final Fantasy|
+------------/Email:DamienW@juno.com |Anime |
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4204 |Annoying Sigs|
"I love watching the mushroom clouds in the morn- WAIT A SEC.."
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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--- Following message extracted from NETMAIL @ 1:18/14 ---
By Christopher Baker on Mon Jul 14 04:00:19 1997
From: Nic Boie @ 1:282/3043
To: Editor @ 1:18/14
Date: 07 Jul 97 14:32:04
Subj: FidoNews
Please put this into the next FidoNews issue.
A Users Manifesto by Nic Boie(Shensey)
I live in a new community. It is called "CyberSpace". CyberSpace is
held together by the members. The United States of America thought
they could limit us. They tried to pass the CDA. It failed. I will
NOT go down without a fight. We will NOT give our freedoms up because
parents cannot monitor their children. If a kid wants porn, their
gonna get it. No matter what you do/say. It has been, is, and always
will be this way. We live this community, most all of the users feel
the same way. Do your math, what side has more? Think about this: No
matter what restrictions you put on us, we will still do it. And you
cant catch 100,000,000 people.
Shensey a member of the United States of America and CyberSpace.
p.s. When I say CyberSpace I refer to ALL online sources Including but
not limiting to BBS's, INTERNET, and FIDONET.
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To: bbodger@ttown.com
Cc: wsl3@juno.com, kb6pi@juno.com, cbaker84@digital.net,
budscan@juno.com, dmilner@southeast.net, mba@financier.com
Subject: Re: REAL_FREE_SPEECH echo
From: wsl3@juno.com (William S Lockwood III)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 00:55:25 EDT
First off, I'm in the middle of a move, and am not anywhere I can set
my system up right now. I should return to the nodelist in about a
week or two. Until that time, all moderator duties are handled by my
second, Brent Hamm. A copy of this is being forwarded to him so that
he may act on your complaint.
Second, I submitted no rules file when I re-listed REAL_FREE_SPEECH.
This was intentional. It is now an area devoted to actual free
speech, not the censorship that you and the rest of the "backbone"
folks now like to employ.
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 5 21 Jul 1997
Third, I'd really like this posted to the snooze Chris, it's the only
way I think Bruce can be kept honest.
With Gassho,
Scott
http://shoga.wwa.com/~tj/
mailto:wsl3@juno.com
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:53:38 +500 "Bruce Bodger" <bbodger@ttown.com>
writes:
>You are receiving this message as you are the listed Moderator of the
>REAL_FREE_SPEECH echo.
>
>Messages as below violate your own echo rules. I understand that the
>Backbone requires that you police your echo to ensure that it follows
>its published topic. It appears that you are not living up to your
>responsibility. Is it your desire that the echo be removed from
>Backbone distribution? If not, I ask that you handle your Moderator
>responsibilities.
>
>Bruce Bodger
>
>
>On: Mon 14 Jul 97 8:16a
>By: BullWinkle
>To: Jack Kinney
>Re: -FLAME ECHO-
>St:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>AREA:REAL_FREE_SPEECH
>Hello Jack.
>
>12 Jul 97 10:26, Jack Kinney wrote to Bullwinkle:
>
> JK> Bullwinkle,
> JK>
> B >> 10 Jul 97 08:50, Hey Rocky! Jack Kinney pulled -FLAME ECHO-
>outta
> B >> his ass!:
> JK>
> JK>
> B >.K>>> "Hey Rocky, Jack Kinney just pulled "I Sucks um full
> B >.K>>> length"
> B >.K>>> outta
> B >.K>>> his ass.
> B >JK>>
> B >. >>> Bodger's little faggot buddy, Jack...
> B >JK>>
> B >JK>>
> B >JK>>
> B >JK>> You blew it! Now everybody knows the truth about Kinney.
> JK>
> JK> Listen to Bullwinkle;
> JK>
> JK>
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 6 21 Jul 1997
> B >> Two can play the game...Kinney sucks on the end of Bodger's
> B >> dork....
> JK>
> JK>
> JK>
> JK> ___
> JK> * UniQWK #5250* Bullwinkle ..."Hey Rocky, look "Jack just
> JK> pulled Bodgers dink outta his ASS"
> JK>
>
>Got anything original, Jack?
>
>
>BullWinkle
>
>... I've upped my standards.... Up yours!
> * Origin: FLAME Backbone * Pacific Star (1:202/909.10)
>
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ARTICLES
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SIX MONTHS OF FIDO: nodelist day 313 1996, to day 122 1997:
a roundup of nodelist statistics
By Ronnie L. Grant, 1:102/836 ronnie.grant@global.dyn.ml.org
Ward Dossche, the Zone 2 Coordinator, has been posting nodelist
statistics in FidoNews every week, showing information from the last
five nodelists. Inspired by that, and wanting some longer-term data, I
have compiled this information covering 22 nodelists: from Friday,
November 8, 1996 -- Day number 313, thru Friday, May 4, 1997 -- Day
122.
Table I shows some fun statistics focusing on the nodelist itself,
including status flags and the actual uncompressed file sizes. Tables
II and III break down the number of nodes by zone; the percentages at
the right is that zone's percentage of all nodes worldwide. Table IV
shows the net change for each zone and worldwide between day 313 and
122.
If you find errors in the math, please submit them as a FidoNews
proofreading (.PRF) article; note that some percentages are rounded
and will not add up to 100.0%.
DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this article is meant to construe
any predictions about the future of Fidonet.
I. ==================================================
Nov 8 May 4 CHANGE
1996 1997
Day 313 Day 122
Zones | 6 | 6 | 0
Regions | 75 | 76 | +1 (+1.3%)
HOSTs | 812 | 794 | -18 (-2.22%)
HUBs | 1797 | 1716 | -81 (-4.51%)
Nodes | 30341 | 27020 | -3,321 (-10.94%)
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PVT | 510 | 477 | -33
Hold | 564 | 404 | -160
Down | 893 | 853 | -40
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CommentLines | 1181 | 1176 | -5
TotalLines | 36179 | 32522 | -3,657
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FileSize (Kb)| 2916 | 2611 | -305 (-10.45%)
II. ==================================================
Friday, November 8, 1996 -- Day number 313
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Zone 1 North America 11097 nodes = 37%
Zone 2 Europe & more 16480 nodes = 54%
Zone 3 Australia NZ PNG 960 nodes = 3%
Zone 4 America Latina 627 nodes = 2%
Zone 5 AFRICA 108 nodes = 0%
Zone 6 ASIA 1020 nodes = 3%
** TOTAL 30292 nodes
III. ==================================================
Friday, May 4, 1997 -- Day 122
Zone 1 North America 8415 nodes = 31%
Zone 2 Europe & more 16048 nodes = 59%
Zone 3 Australia NZ PNG 773 nodes = 3%
Zone 4 America Latina 555 nodes = 2%
Zone 5 AFRICA 100 nodes = 0%
Zone 6 ASIA 1083 nodes = 4%
** TOTAL 26974 nodes
IV. ==================================================
Net change from 313 (1996) to 122 (1997)
Zone 1 North America -2612 (-23.54%)
Zone 2 Europe & more - 432 (-2.62%)
Zone 3 Australia NZ PNG - 187 (-19.48%)
Zone 4 America Latina - 72 (-11.48%)
Zone 5 AFRICA - 8 (-7.41%)
Zone 6 ASIA + 63 (+6.18%)
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>>>>>> TOTAL CHANGE -3318 (-10.953%)
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Re: FidoNet: Past and Future
by Joe Kotroczo, 2:270/20
The guest editorial in issue 1428 ends like this:
>Only one question remains. The question that remains is this: are
>there enough good people, hackers, developers, visionaries, and
>interest left in the FidoNet to make this new "FidoNet-IP" a reality?
To answer this question: "FidoNet-IP" is already a reality. In some
places at least. I fell over these while randomly surfing the net (at
http://www.falcon.spb.su/fido.vmodem.html to be precise):
.........
;A Zone Nodelist for Monday, February 24, 1997 -- Day number 55 : 4918
;
; This is an official list of R50 nodes with an IP-connectivity
; Send corrections and updates to 2:50/0 with IP-LIST in Subj field.
;
; Valid flags are:
;
; TCP - mandatory for any ip-node
; VMP - Vmodem capability (default port 3141)
; TEL - Telnet capability (default port 23)
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; IFC - ifcico capability (default port 60179)
; BND - binkd capability (default port 24554)
; NOSMTP - the node does NOT support inbound SMTP mail
; U,xxxxx - marks non-standard port number, relates to _first_
; capability flag in the line (only one non-standard port
; can be listed).
; U,"foo.bar" - marks corresponding domain address (temporarily)
;
; In phone place should be placed either domain address in double
; quotes "" or ip numeric address separated with '*' instead of '.'
; (temporarily, domain address is moved behind U-flag, because no
; mailer now supports alphanumeric translation from phone field to
; ATDT ;command).
;
; All ip-nodes are listed with 38400 speed, just for the sake of
; distinguishing them among non-ip nodes.
;
; R50C
;
; P.S. It is necessary to commemorate the impact of Dmitry Zavalishin
; (2:5020/32) without whose activity and magnificent CREANL package,
; this project would have never been realized.
;
;
;
Zone,2,Europe_etc.,Europe,Ward_Dossche,-Unpublished-,9600,XA
,5,Castle,Riga,Egons_Bush,194*8*13*164,38400,XA,MO,CM,TCP,TEL,VMP,U,
60179
,6,Castle,Riga,Egons_Bush,194*8*13*164,38400,XA,MO,CM,TCP,TEL,VMP,U,
60179
Region,50,Russia,Moscow_Russia,Basil_Dolmatov,195*208*192*19,38400,XA,
MO,MN,CM,TCP,TEL,NOSMTP,U,"fido.cplire.ru"
,314,NorthStar,Arkhangelsk,Andrew_Lun,194*87*176*161,38400,XA,CM,TCP,
IFC
Host,5000,West_Siberian_Net,Novosibirsk_Russia,Oleg_Shurpikov,
194*58*132*44,38400,CM,MO,TCP,TEL,IFC,BND,U,60177,"xopek.card.ru"
[75 other entries deleted for shortness]
.........
This not the only list to be found: there is another one like this
for Region 46, having 20 entries, and various other lists, some using
different formats like this one:
.........
#Created 16 Jul 1997 22:18:50 by get-binkd-list REXX script v0.1
#X-URL http://www.falcon.spb.su/cgi-bin/get-binkd-list.rex
#
Node 2:50/360@fidonet 195.19.106.135
Node 2:252/358@fidonet alice.pcug.co.uk_24554
Node 2:254/153@fidonet bbs.fidouk.org
Node 2:450/56@fidonet 194.226.120.107
Node 2:450/77@fidonet 194.85.255.46
Node 2:450/102@fidonet 193.232.248.49
[62 entries deleted]
.........
More info and mailer supporting IP-connects can be found at:
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 10 21 Jul 1997
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/argusip.html
http://www.doe.carleton.ca/~nsoveiko/fido/fido-over-ip.FAQ.english.
html
http://www.magadan.su/~maloff/binkd/
I think that the above shows clearly that there is a need for IP-
connectivity in Fidonet. The technology is there, what we need are
political decisions that allow these nodes to be inserted somehow into
the "real" nodelist. One could imagine for example a Flag, indicating
that the entry in the phonenumber-field is an ip-address. Or a
completely new nodelist format.
But I could also observe two rather negative facts: Firstly, a number
of nodes are not accepting this new form of connectivity: As one
German node put it: "Go away with this crap. This is Fido and not
internet." Intolerance and arrogance is sad.
Secondly: "FidoNet is defined by a NodeList issued weekly by the
International Coordinator." (Policy 4.07) But where is he ?
According to the rumours, our 6 ZCs can't get their act together and
vote a new one. According to these same rumours, one or two of them
can't even speak English, and according to these rumours one of them
behaves like a fascist. I have no idea if this is true. Perhaps some
ZC can comment on this?
P.S.: Sorry for my bad writing, but English isn't my mother tongue.
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COLUMNS
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FIDONET IN EUROPE
-----------------
by David Meikle (2:259/27.4)
Remember back in January I rote my last Fidonet in Europe, I bet you
were all upset ;-o Now I'm back with a vengeance :->
Now down to Biz. In March I got a reply to a request which I put out
in January to help out Jean Parrot. A Herr Rolf Behringer sent the
answer so lets all give him a Sehr Gut. SEHR GUT!. So this section
really does work.
If you would like to contact Rolf Fido in Germany drop him a line at
Rolf Behringer@2:2476/812 & I'm sure he will be glad to help. He runs
THE HAIRY GRILL BBS its number in Germany is 07631-10559 and from
anywhere else is 49-7631-10559.
If you have any news or requests send a message to europe@2:259/27.4 .
____
|---> Greetings from David Meikle
P.S. If anybody wants a infomail page on my system drop my a line and
I will sort it out because you can edit it remotely.
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GETTING TECHNICAL
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Subject: nodelist flags
from: Steve Woodmore
Version: 001
Date: 17th July 1997
Author: Steve Woodmore
Internet as a transport mechanism for fidonet
A proposal for Nodelist flags
by Steve Woodmore, 2:440/410 (2:2/200 ZEC/2)
Version 1: 17th July 1997
1 Introduction
This document only discusses and deals with nodes that have the
capability to transfer fidonet packets across the Internet,
allowing low-cost access to nodes/points/users anywhere in the
world. The proposal is for nodelist flags to indicate this
ability.
This proposal assumes the reader has some knowledge of
Internet transport mechanisms.
Transferring data across the Internet can be done in one of
three ways:
1: FTP (File Transfer protocols)
2: Email attaches MIMES/UUencodes (this also assumes tunneling
programs)
3: Virtual Modems
This document aims to define the way in which nodes are to
inform other nodes of their Internet capabilities in the
nodelist.
Nodelist flags
Internet-related nodelist flags consist of two prefix indicators
and a suffix.
The prefix indicators are IN (for internet transfer capable).
The suffix indicates the way in the Internet is used.
IE
INo(p)oo
Suffix types
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V - A virtual modem exists at this Node
F - This Node has an FTP server available for mail transfers
M - This Node is able to transfer mail either by UUencoded
attaches, MIME encoded attaches, or Via a Tunnel method.
Because mail packets can be stored on the Nodes ISP until
the Node Dials up, this method does not need 24hr
operation.
A node must dial-up their ISP to collect/send fidonet
mail at least Once daily to qualify for this flag
P - Is an optional flag and should only follow a V or an F
Suffix This indicates Part-time (not 24hr) operation, and
enquiries should be made to this node for hours of
operation details.
If more than one suffix is used, the suffixes will be sorted in
ascending order.
These flags DO NOT indicate if the Node operates a "Cost
recovery" Scheme or not.
Examples:
INVP - This node has a virtual modem, but not running 24hrs
INFPMV - This node has FTP (part time), mailer & Virtual modem
Capabilities.
INM - This node has Internet mailer/tunneling available
Rationale:
The Internet is here to stay, we in fidonet can no
longer hide our heads in the sand and hope it goes
away. The flags indicate that we are using the
nodelist as an alternative transport mechanism, and
we are in no way becoming a part of the Internet.
By using and incorporating this transport method into
the Nodelist, we can open fidonet up to a much wider
audience.
These flags do NOT do away with the Need to be FTS001
compliant during ZMH This is still a minimum
requirement.
Steve Woodmore ZEC/2 2:440/410 (2:2/200)
---
E-mail : steve@proteus.demon.co.uk
http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk
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NET HUMOR
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From: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@novia.net>
To: "Baker, Christopher" <cbaker84@digital.net (Christopher Baker)>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 08:05:12 -0600
Reply-To: "Mike Riddle" <mriddle@oasis.novia.net>
Subject: Re: GEEKS: If Klingons Wrote Code
From: "Matthew J. Probst" <mprobst@cs.byu.edu>
Top 10 things likely to be overheard if you
had a Klingon on your software development team:
10) "This code is a piece of gagh! You
have no honor!"
9) "A TRUE Klingon warrior does not comment
his code!"
8) "By filing this bug you have questioned
my family honor. Prepare to die!"
7) "You question the worthiness of my Code?!
I should kill you where you stand!"
6) "Our competitors are without honor!"
5) "Specs are for the weak and timid!"
4) "This machine is a piece of GAGH! I need dual
Pentium processors if I am to do battle with
this code!"
3) "Perhaps it IS a good day to Die! I say
we ship it!"
2) "My program has just dumped Stoval Kor!"
1) "Behold, the keyboard of Kalis! The greatest
Klingon code warrior that ever lived!"
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ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT
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Don't risk being banned! Use FIDOTEST.
Almost ALL other echoes FORBID posting TEST messages. Where do you
and your users send 'test' posts to ensure they are leaving your
system? Which Backboned echo can you use to ensure your posts are
reaching the far corners of Z1, or to see if upstream/downstream
systems are wrecking or loosing your message?
Why not a specific echo devoted to testing echomail links?
There is one! If you believe it to be beneficial for the Fidonet
community to have a _dedicated_ and _authorized_ echo for testing, be
sure to ask your REC to ensure that
FIDOTEST -
the Fidonet TEST echo and malfunction conference
gets Z1-Backboned.
Remember: only YOU can make sure your REC knows your position on the
backboning of FIDOTEST.
Netmail him today, because without your help, tomorrow's Fidonet may
never arrive.
Ronnie L. Grant
Moderator, Fidonet FIDOTEST echo
1:102/836 or ronnie.grant@bbsnets.com
+-----------------------------------------------+
| The SIX MONTHS OF FIDO article in this issue |
| has been brought to you, in part, by: |
| |
| The FIDOTEST echo. Use it now, before you're |
| banned. |
+-----------------------------------------------+
+-----------------------------------------------+
| COMING FALL OF '97: the LIBRARY echo returns. |
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NOTICES
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Future History
26 Jul 1997
FidoNews Editor turns 48.
1 Aug 1997
International FidoNet PENPAL [Echo] meeting in Dijon, France
13 Oct 1997
Thanksgiving Day, Canada.
1 Dec 1997
World AIDS Day.
10 Dec 1997
Nobel Day, Sweden.
12 Jan 1998
HAL 9000 is one year old today.
30 Apr 1998
Queens Day, Holland.
22 May 1998
Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
1 Dec 1998
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
Tom Jennings.
31 Dec 1999
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
1 Jan 2000
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
15 Sep 2000
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
1 Jan 2001
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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[from a previous Issue] Ed.
Latest Greatest Software Versions
by Peter E. Popovich, 1:363/264
Whew. Been a big month for me, but a relatively slow one for the list.
-=- Snip -=-
Submission form for the Latest Greatest Software Versions column
OS Platform :
Software package name :
Version :
Function(s) - BBS, Mailer, Tosser, etc. :
Freeware / Shareware / Commercial? :
Author / Support staff contact name :
Author / Support staff contact node :
Magic name (at the above-listed node) :
Please include a sentence describing what the package does.
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
-=- Snip -=-
MS-DOS:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Act-Up 4.6 G D Chris Gunn 1:15/55 ACT-UP
ALLFIX 4.40 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 ALLFIX
Announcer 1.11 O S Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 ANNOUNCE
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOS_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_DOS
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
CheckPnt 1.0a O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 CHECKPNT
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FASTECHO
FastEcho/16 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE16
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTD
FidoBBS (tm) 12u B S Ray Brown 1:1/117 FILES
FrontDoor 2.12 M S JoHo 2:201/330 FD
FrontDoor 2.20c M C JoHo 2:201/330 FDINFO
GEcho 1.00 T S Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Plus 1.11 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GED
GoldED/386 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEX
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
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Imail 1.75 T S Michael McCabe 1:1/121 IMAIL
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
InfoMail/86 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFOMAIL
InfoMail/386 1.21 O F Damian Walker 2:2502/666 INFO386
InterEcho 1.19 T C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IEDEMO
InterMail 2.29k M C Peter Stewart 1:369/35 IMDEMO
InterPCB 1.52 O S Peter Stewart 1:369/35 INTERPCB
IPNet 1.11 O S Michele Stewart 1:369/21 IPNET
JD's CBV 1.4 O S John Dailey 1:363/277 CBV
Jelly-Bean 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY
Jelly-Bean/386 1.01 T S Rowan Crowe 3:635/727 JELLY386
JMail-Hudson 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-H
JMail-Goldbase 2.81 T S Jason Steck 1:285/424 JMAIL-G
MakePl 1.9 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MAKEPL
Marena 1.1 beta O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 MARENA
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAX
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUE
McMail 1.0 M S Michael McCabe 1:1/148 MCMAIL
MDNDP 1.18 N S Bill Doyle 1:388/7 MDNDP
Msged 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41D.ZIP
Msged/386 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41X.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFD
Opus CBCS 1.79 B P Christopher Baker 1:374/14 OPUS
O/T-Track 2.66 O S Peter Hampf 2:241/1090 OT
PcMerge 2.8 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
PlatinumXpress 1.3 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PX13TD.ZIP
QuickBBS 2.81 B S Ben Schollnick 1:2613/477 QUICKBBS
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR
RemoteAccess 2.50 B S Mark Lewis 1:3634/12 RA
Silver Xpress
Door 5.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 FILES
Reader 4.4 O S Gary Petersen 1:290/111 SXR44.ZIP
Spitfire 3.51 B S Mike Weaver 1:3670/3 SPITFIRE
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISH
StealTag UK 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_UK
StealTag NL 1.c... O F Fred Schenk 2:284/412 STEAL_NL
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL
Telegard 3.02 B F Tim Strike 1:259/423 TELEGARD
Terminate 4.00 O S Bo Bendtsen 2:254/261 TERMINATE
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TosScan 1.01 T C JoHo 2:201/330 TSINFO
TransNet 1.00 G S Marc S. Ressl 4:904/72 TN100ALL.ZIP
TriBBS 11.0 B S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIBBS
TriDog 11.0 T F Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRIDOG
TriToss 11.0 T S Gary Price 1:3607/26 TRITOSS
WaterGate 0.92 G S Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WTRGATE
WWIV 4.24a B S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIV
WWIVTOSS 1.36 T S Craig Dooley 1:376/126 WWIVTOSS
xMail 2.00 T S Thorsten Franke 2:2448/53 XMAIL
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XRDOS
OS/2:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ALLFIX/2 1.10 T S Harald Harms 2:281/415 AFIXOS2
BGFAX 1.60 O S B.J. Guillot 1:106/400 BGFAX
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Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BOS2_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm-XE XR4 M F Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BTXE_OS2
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastEcho 1.45a T S Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FE2
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLST
FleetStreet 1.19 O S Michael Hohner 2:2490/2520 FLEET
GEcho/Pro 1.20 T C Bob Seaborn 1:140/12 GECHO
GIGO 07-14-96 G S Jason Fesler 1:1/141 INFO
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
GoldNODE 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEN
ImCrypt 1.04 O G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 IMCRYPT
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXP
Max User Ed. 0.18 O F Larry Cooke 1:300/53 MUEP
Msged/2 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41O.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEF
PcMerge 2.3 N G Michiel vd Vlist 2:500/9 PCMERGE
RAR 2.01 C S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 RAR2
Squish 1.11 T P Tech 1:249/106 SQUISHP
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAIL2
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
XRobot 3.01 O S JoHo 2:201/330 XROS2
Windows (16-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
FrontDoor APX 1.12 P S Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPXW
Windows (32-bit apps):
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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Argus 95 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUS95
Argus NT 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSNT
Argus NT/IP 2.62 M S Max Masyutin 2:469/77 ARGUSIP
BeeMail 1.0 M C Andrius Cepaitis 2:470/1 BEEMAIL
Binkley Docs 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BDOC_260.ZIP
BinkleyTerm 2.60 M F Bob Juge 1:1/102 BW32_260.ZIP
CFRoute 0.92 O G C. Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFR
FastLst 1.36 N S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 FASTLSTW
GoldED 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEO
GoldED Docs 2.50 O S Len Morgan 1:203/730 GEM
Maximus 3.01 B P Tech 1:249/106 MAXN
Msged/NT 4.10 O G Andrew Clarke 3:635/728 MSGED41W.ZIP
NEF 2.38 O S Alberto Pasquale 2:332/504 NEFW
PlatinumXpress 2.00 M C Gary Petersen 1:290/111 PXW-INFO
T-Mail 2.600 M S Ron Dwight 2:220/22 TMAILNT
WinFOSSIL/95 1.12 r4 F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 WNFOSSIL.ZIP
WinFOSSIL/NT 1.0 beta F S Bryan Woodruff 1:343/294 NTFOSSIL.ZIP
Unix:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
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ifmail 2.10 M G Eugene Crosser 2:293/2219 IFMAIL
ifmail-tx ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX
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ifmail-tx.rpm ...tx8.2 M G Pablo Saratxaga 2:293/2219 IFMAILTX.RPM
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
Amiga:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrashMail 1.23 T X Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHMAIL
CrashTick 1.1 O F Fredrik Bennison 2:205/324 CRASHTICK
DLG Pro BBOS 1.15 B C Holly Sullivan 1:202/720 DLGDEMO
GMS 1.1.85 M S Mirko Viviani 2:331/213 GMS
Msged 4.00 O G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 MSGED
Tobruk 0.33 T G Paul Edwards 3:711/934 TOBRUK
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
2:310/6 TRAPDOOR
TrapDoor 1.86.b2 M S Maximilian Hantsch
2:310/6 TRAPBETA
TrapToss 1.50 T S Rene Hexel 2:310/6 TRAPTOSS
Atari:
Program Name Version F C Contact Name Node Magic Name
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ApplyList 1.00 N F Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 APLST100.LZH
BinkleyTerm/ST 3.18pl2 M F Bill Scull 1:363/112 BINKLEY
BTNC 2.00 N G Daniel Roesen 2:2432/1101 BTNC
JetMail 0.99beta T S Joerg Spilker 2:2432/1101 JETMAIL
Semper 0.80beta M S Jan Kriesten 2:2490/1624 SMP-BETA
Function: B-BBS, P-Point, M-Mailer, N-Nodelist, G-Gateway, T-Tosser,
C-Compression, F-Fossil, O-Other. Note: Multifunction will
be listed by the first match.
Cost: P-Free for personal use, F-Freeware, S-Shareware, C-Commercial,
X-Crippleware, D-Demoware, G-Free w/ Source
Please send updates and suggestions to: Peter Popovich, 1:363/264
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Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 anytime except 0100-0130 ET and Zone
1 ZMH at 1200-9600+ HST/V32B. The FidoNews key is also available on
the FidoNews homepage listed in the Masthead information.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
=================================================================
This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
of this appearance.
============
FidoNet:
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
HTML FNews http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6894/
WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
FTSC page http://www2.blaze.net.au/ftsc.html
Echomail http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/index.html
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html
============
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
Region 13: http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm
Region 14: http://www.netins.net/showcase/fidonet/
Region 15: [disappeared?]
Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm
Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm
REC17: http://www.westsound.com/ptmudge/
Region 18: http://www.citicom.com/fido.html
Region 19: http://www.compconn.net
============
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
ZEC2: http://www.proteus.demon.co.uk/zec.htm
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)
Region 25:
http://members.aol.com/Net254/
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)
Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss)
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)
Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
============
Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
============
Zone 4: (not yet listed)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (in Spanish)
============
Zone 5: (not yet listed)
============
Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
============
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
=================================================================
------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
Editor: Christopher Baker
Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
Donald Tees
"FidoNews Editor"
FidoNet 1:1/23
BBS 1-904-409-7040, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(ds)
more addresses:
Christopher Baker -- 1:18/14, cbaker84@digital.net
cbaker84@aol.com
cbaker84@msn.com
(Postal Service mailing address)
FidoNews Editor
P.O. Box 471
Edgewater, FL 32132-0471
U.S.A.
voice: 1-904-409-3040 [1400-2100 ET only, please]
[1800-0100 UTC/GMT]
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
FidoNews.
Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
Copyright 1997 Christopher Baker. All rights reserved. Duplication
and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
the Editor.
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSEnn.ZIP] for a
FIDONEWS 14-29 Page 26 21 Jul 1997
particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
current year [7], i.e., FNWSFEB7.ZIP for all the Issues from Feb 97.
Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
1 - 14 for 1984 - 1997, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
size from 48K to 1.4M.
INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
*=*=*
You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the email
distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist with no
message to the same address above.
*=*=*
You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6894/
STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 11 Megs.
=*=*=*=
The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
available almost immediately after publication on the Editor's new
homepage on the World Wide Web at:
http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fidonews.html
There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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1:1/23 [1:18/14] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
Rights On! BBS at 1-904-409-7040 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area 18. It
is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
*=*=*=*=*
SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
from 1:1/23 [1:18/14] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
and are used with permission.
"Disagreement is actually necessary,
or we'd all have to get in fights
or something to amuse ourselves
and create the requisite chaos."
-Tom Jennings
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