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FidoNews · Vol 1, No 5 · 31 Dec 84

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        Volume 1, Number 5                              31 Dec 84
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        Editor:                 Tom Jennings
        Publisher:              Fido #1
        Chief Procrastinator:   Tom Jennings


                            HOT NEWS

                Nothing of interest this week in the line of Hot
        News, in between holidays and all that stuff. Fido 1 is
        still down; newsletters are being mailed out from the secret
        Fido 99 location, so they should get out a little faster
        this week. (99 is on a private voice line, on my development
        machine which I use during the day, so it's not a public
        available number.)

                Articles are slowly coming in; keep mailing them!
        You can send articles to either Fido 1, 51 or 27, and they
        will make their way to me. If received late (after Sunday)
        then I may not get them in until the next week, but no
        problem.

                The FidoNet Users Group needs a new name. (The
        acronym, FUG, isn't too pleasant!) Any ideas? One idea is to
        choose a four word name, so that FIDO is an acronym, and
        that Fido is the first word in it, so that it's an
        infinitely recursive acronym, ie. "Fido Ixxx Dxxx Oxxx".
        Just an idea ... more (better?) ideas are welcome!

                Anyone want to write a regular (or sporadic) column?
        Pick your subject.

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                            NEWS

                     ARTICLE SUBMISSION

                The format of FidoNews is totally ad hoc; please
        make recomendations as to formats, sections needed, liked,
        or hated, columns you'd like to see, or see removed,
        anything at all. If you want to submit something regularly,
        we can start a column for you.

                You are ENCOURAGED to send things in for the
        newsletter. ANYTHING is fit for the newsletter, such as a
        description of your board, problems found, questions, jokes,
        fixes, horror stories about wrong FidoNet numbers, things
        for sale, etc etc etc. 

                   SUBMITTING AN ARTICLE

                An article should have your name, node number (if
        applicable), followed by the text. Text can be any ASCII
        derivative; WordStar, soft paragraphs, 8th bit set, etc are
        all OK.

                Articles can be uploaded at either Fido #1, #27 or
        #51, or by sending it by FidoNet. Make sure the file name is
        unique, especially if you send it by FidoNet, so you dont
        overwrite another article.


        Dallas, Texas (FNM) - A Dallas-area Fido sysop has taken Tom
        Tcmpidis' dilemma to heart.  After reading a FidoNews
        article describing the continuing plight of Mr. Tcmpidis,
        the realization that "open" bulletin board systems can be an
        invitation to would-be software pirates and other
        traffickers in illegal information led him to implement a
        security system to ensure that callers to this particular
        board were not "perfect strangers." 

         The means of "getting to know your callers" already exists
        within the current release of the Fido software, with the
        ability of Fido to screen callers who do not yet have a
        valid password, and to request information from new callers
        prior to the granting of full access to the features of the
        board.  This is described in "Fido's Operating Manual,"
        release 10, as the Private Message System.

        Most Fido sysops are aware that the capability for
        generating a "private" system exist, by simply adding the
        "/M" flag to the command line that starts the Fido software. 
        However, some may not have experimented with this, and it is
        the purpose of this article to describe such a system. 

        If the "/M" parameter is specified on the command line, Fido
        will not allow callers without an already-existing password
        to reach the Main Menu.  Instead, if a Questionnaire file,
        named QNOPWD.BBS, exists in the BBS directory, Fido will
        begin processing this questionnaire file, prompting the new

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        caller to respond to the questions therein.

        Once the new user has responded to all the questions, Fido
        saves the responses in an "answer" file, known to the
        operating system as ANOPWD.BBS.  This sequential file keeps
        all responses from all new callers, allowing the system
        operator to review them, and add new callers to the USER
        file as desired.

        A sample of this kind of "new-user application" follows.



        **************************************************


        Thanks for calling DalTex FIDOnet!  We are located in
        Dallas, Texas, operating at 300 or 1200 bps, 24hrs a day,
        seven days a week.

        This FIDO system is dedicated to the free exchange of
        public-domain software for the IBM personal computer and its
        compatibles.  Other computers will be supported in the File
        Download areas, if you request it from the system oper- 
        ators.

        We require NO MONEY in compensation for this service;
        instead, we request that you share any public-domain
        software that you may have by uploading it to the board.
        Also, we strongly encourage you to share your opinions and
        views in the available message bases.  New message areas are
        easy to create, and can be created for your special interest
        upon request to the system operators.



        In order to obtain authorization to use this service, you
        must fully complete the following brief questionnaire.

        +2Do you want to continue?  (1) Yes      (2) No
        !

        Only complete answers to all questions will be accepted.

        +2Did you give your correct real name at the initial signon?
        (1) yes  (2) no
        ?What is your REAL name (first and last, please) ?
        *

        /Pick a password for future sign-ons (15 char max) ==>


        Now, please give up to three (3) lines of a Mailing Address
        for yourself.

        /Your Mailing Address (Line 1)?
        /     Mailing Address (Line 2)?

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        /     Mailing Address (Line 3)?

        You may be contacted briefly by telephone to verify the
        above. If you don't leave a number, you request will NOT be
        processed. 
        /Your daytime telephone number, including the Area Code? 
        /What's a good time of the day to call?

        Your age group is: 
        +5(1) 5-15 (2) 16-24 (3) 25-35 (4) 36-50 (5) 51 up

        /What kind of system do you use?


        Thanks. If you answered all the items in this application,
        then your request to join DalTex FIDOnet will be handled
        quickly. This information is for validation purposes ONLY,
        and will be kept confidential.

        Requests to join us are ALWAYS appreciated! We know that you
        have a lot to offer, or you wouldn't have called.  We
        process joining requests on Fridays, so PLEASE BE PATIENT -
        your password will be installed on the coming Friday.




        Live long, prosper, and call back after Friday -- DalTex
        systems operator


        ****************************************************


        The above example is provided for those sysops who are
        looking for a way to familiarize themselves with their
        callers, or to have some verifiable information on callers,
        should it become necessary.  Tom Tcmpidis would have loved
        it.
        A little tidbit about modems.....
        By: Jim Ryan, Fido #9

                If you are using one of the  "industry-standard"
        modems (one of the ones  that  uses  "Hayes"  protocol),
        here is a little tidbit of information that may help you
        avoid a system "crash".

                It is possible,  on occassion,  for a "gweep" to
        gain control of your modem by  entering three plus signs
        on a command line.  Although the  "gweep" usually cannot
        do more than stall your system for a  short time,  it is
        possible with certain modems to  disable  the system for
        hours.

                A neat little trick  is to  add the command line
        "ATS2=255" to your  FIDOMDM.BBS file.  This disables the
        modem break character, thereby preventing the problem.

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                If anyone else has any good modem "tips", please
        leave me a note on one of the Connecticut Fido's  (until
        Fido #9 has a more permanent home).

                                             Jim Ryan
                                             sysop : Fido #9

        [I have responded to these, after each, in [brackets] tj]

        Fido_Net Article
        By:  Alfred Anderson
             FIDO Node #61
        ---------------------

        FIDO Suggestions
        ================
          Might I suggest that a section be added to the
        Fido_Newsletter  to collect modification suggestions from
        Fido Users?  To start  the list rolling, here are a few of
        my favorite requests:

        1.   Allow a user to Read Forward New.  When a user logs
        off, FIDO would save the highest message number retrieved in
        each System Area the user visited (limit of 10 areas).  At
        the users next call, issuing a Read Forward New command
        (perhaps a R= as opposed to the R* most of us use), would
        cause FIDO to determine the highest message number read by
        the user in this system area on their last connection and
        read forward from that point.

        [tj
                I'm now trying to figure out where to get the space
        to do this. It would have to work like this: since there are
        possibly up to 99 areas, all variable and changeable, Fido
        will keep track of say the last 8 used. This requires two
        bytes per msg area; the problem is that there is not 16
        bytes available in the users record; it may mean a hack
        program to convert the users record to a new format.

                Also, if you RENUM an area, all the numbers are
        wrong; this means that RENUM will have to be made to go
        through and translate all the msg numbers in the users
        record ]

        2.   File Dates.  When a file was uploaded, the FILES.BBS
        file could also include the date of upload.  It would then
        be possible to tell if any new files were uploaded since
        your last call via a FN (Files New) command.  

        [tj
                To be meaningful, the date has to be at least
        consistent, preferably the creation date, or at possibly the
        upload date. However, file dates are partially meaningless;
        the problem is that when uploaded via XMODEM (etc) the file
        is given the upload date, ie. created anew; TELINK, and
        direct disk copy, preserve the original date. Therefore, it

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        is likely that you may have a later version of a program
        with an OLDER date on it. A meaningless date is worse than
        no date at all. For this reason, I skipped the date
        entirely. If anyone has a solution to this let me know!) ]

        3.   LIFO Users List.  When requesting a display of the FIDO      
        Users, the list could be presented in chronological order      
        (most recent caller first).  For remote SYSOPs, it would be      
        helpful to determine if the users uploaded/downloaded any      
        files.  Although similar to the SYSOP.LOG file, this would      
        contain abbreviated data and would be in LIFO sequence.

        [tj
                It is extremely difficult to write to a file
        "backwards", using a free form, not a preallocated file. The
        U command really should list them backwards, though, thats
        much easier. Ill see if I cant do that much.]

        4.   Ability to request a Net_Download.  A special message
        format (SYSOP privilege probably required) would allow
        dialing into another FIDO node and requesting download of
        particular software from a specified directory.  Thus the
        phone charges for file transmissions would be born by the
        requester. (Possible use includes retrieval of this FIDO
        Newsletter!).

        [tj
                ... also called "pick Up Mail", in Usenet called
        "Polling", ie. you can call in and see if there is mail or
        files. Real Soon Now ... realistically, 3 months ... ]

        5.   Attached File Validation.  When specifying that a file      
        should be attached to an outgoing networked message, FIDO      
        does not validate that the specified file exists.  It would      
        be very comforting to have this validation performed when      
        the file path was specified to eliminate the possibility of      
        typographical errors causing unwanted suprises on next      
        months phone bill!

        [tj
                Yes, but it is a two edged sword ... it is sometimes
        very useful to have it not check; ie. I send this newsletter
        out with preentered messages, before the file is copied in,
        so that hopefully by mail time the fiel is there and is sent
        out right. This is a classic "damned if I do, damned if I
        dont".

                Eventualyl, Fido will let users attach files, whats
        missing is the verification, and security and accounting.
        For sysops, it will work as it does now. For regular users,
        you will have to enter the filename(s) as:
        "12:FILENAME.EXT", where "12" is the file area number. This
        is a ways off, though. ]

        If you would like to add to this list, agree with one of
        these  suggestions, or disagree with them, feel free to send
        a FIDO_NET  message me.

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        FIDO_FILES
        ==========
         On a related topic, several of us are thinking about
        developing a squeezed data file that could contain the
        names, sizes, dates, descriptions, and machine dependencies
        of user-contributed software residing in the public download
        sections of FIDO BBS's.  Our initial thoughts are to select
        one FIDO as the coordinating center (this might be on either
        Node 85 or Node 61 unless someone else really wants to
        volunteer). The database would be maintained in PC-FILE III,
        Version 2. The three files (.IDX, .HDR, and .DAT) would be
        loaded into a library file with LU.EXE and then squeezed
        with SQ2.EXE for efficient distribution. Thus FIDO users
        looking for particular public domain software would know
        where to call.


        FIDO_BOARD_DESCRIPTIONS
        =======================
          Along the same lines, a PC-FILE database could be created
        and centrally maintained that would list selected FIDO
        users, their nodes, interests, and areas of expertise. Say,
        for example, you need to contact someone experienced with
        writing assembler code inside of a TURBO Pascal application. 
        By referring to this database one could identify various
        people that have this knowledge and would be willing to help
        you out. If anyone has any comments on this idea, feel free
        to send a net_message to me.


        FINAL_THOUGHTS
        ==============
          Six months ago, I was convinced that the RBBS-PC software
        was the best BBS available for any machine. However, after
        being exposed to FIDO my opinion has really changed! The
        ability to use networked messages, separate message and file
        areas, and the scheduling capability of FIDO set it head and
        shoulders above the others! All of us owe a real debt of
        thanks to Tom Jennings who conceived, implemented, and
        continues to develop FIDO.

        Alfred Anderson,
        FIDO #61, Rochester Mn.
         Miscelaneous Pieces of Information
        By: Jim Ryan, Fido #9 

        Well, once again I have had the opportunity to test Fido
        with a few new modems.  Here are my results--  hope they
        are of some use to somebody..... somewhere.....

        --------------------------------------------------------

        General DataComm Personal Computer Modem 300/1200

        Modem Type : 1/J
        Bit Flag   : 128/V
        Switches   : None

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                The General DataComm 300/1200 Modems do not have
        dipswitches, but instead have a software dipswitch (like
        the Rixon  R212A and the Prentice  POPCOM).  In order to
        set the software  dipswitch,  you must have this in your
        FIDOMDM.BBS :

        ATS17=1Z

        --------------------------------------------------------

        Racal-Vadic Maxwell Modem

        Modem Flag : 1/J
        Bit Flag   : 3/J
        Switches   : None

                In general, you shouldn't use the  Maxwell modem
        in Hayes mode-- the response time is terrible!!!! Use it
        in it's native Vadic mode, you'll both be much happier.

        --------------------------------------------------------

        Birth Anouncement (ok,ok-- so I overdue it a little)
        By: Jim Ryan, Fido #9

        IMPORTANT ANOUNCEMENT
        ---------------------

          Please welcome to the FidoNet Users Group it's newest
        (and probably youngest) member.....

                           Megan Noel Ryan
                           Dec. 10th, 1984
                               10:50 pm

                Proud parents..... Cheryl and Jim Ryan


                           NOTICES


                          FOR SALE

        From Enrique Mora on Fido 314 

        Creative Computer Consulting
        4900 Ledgestone Dr.
        Fort Worth Texas
        76132

        Special offer to all FIDO sysops
        --------------------------------

        All FIDO sysops will receive discounts of cost plus ten
        percent (plus s/h) on all orders over $100.00.

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        CCC is a dealer of hardware, software, accessories and books
        for a number of micro computers, including: 
            IBM PC and Compatibles
            DEC
            Xerox
            Apple
            Commodore
            Atari
            Victor
            cp/m 5 1/4" and 8"

        If you are thinking of purchasing some computer related
        equipment call or send a message via FIDONET to FIDO#314. We
        will be glad to give you a quote.   

        Creative Computer Consulting - Sponsoring FIDO#314
        voice  (817)346-2653
        data   (817)294-7383

                           WANTED

        WANTED TO BUY: One used Gavilan computer.

        Send details (accessories, condition and price) to:
        Andy Meyer, FidoNet, Fido #317 - or contact Sysop of
        SMC-70 Citadel: (201) 930-6483 [24 hours, 300 baud]

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                        FIDOLIST: HUMAN READABLE

List of Fido Based Bulletin Board Systems
Updated 28 Dec 84 by Fido 51

Please send updates,corrections or other information to:
Fido #51.

All are 24 hrs 300/1200 baud except as noted
Times listed are in the BBS's local time zone
RE == restricted, or private or by request,etc.
WE == plus Weekends
SU == plus Sunday, etc
RT == route all mail to node as specified

  1  Fido's-Board San Francisco, CA Tom Jennings(415)-864-1418
  2. CLP-FIDO Pikesville, MD John Madill        (301)-484-2831
  3. FidoSouth Atlanta, GA Lane Fowler          (404)-938-4808
  4. Bulldog St. Louis, MO Tony Clark           (314)-441-9297
  5. Batie's Backyard Corvallis, OR Alan Batie  -DOWN-
  6. CastleNet Corvallis, OR Lee Damon          (503)-754-5244 After 1/9
  7. Bob_Overlock Waimea, HI Bob Overlock       (808)-338-1277
  8. Demon  New York, NY Danny Feinsmith        -DOWN-
  9. GDC_Connection Middlebury, CT Jim Ryan     (203)-758-8081 Irregular
 10. MDC/RCC St. Louis, MO Ben Baker            (314)-234-1462 5p - 8a
*11. PRO-TECH Cypress, CA Sanford Zelkovitz     (714)-898-8634 down temp
 13. Vern's_Fido San Jose, CA Vern Crawford     (408)-923-5565
 14. WayStar Marlboro, MA Kevin Porter          (617)-481-7147
 16. Mikes_Board  St. Louis, MO Mike Mellinger  (314)-726-3448
 17. DCA_BBS  St. Louis, MO Jon Wichman         (314)-962-0395
 18. Steve_Hedlund Van Nuys, CA Steve Hedlund   -DOWN-
 21. Phoenix_Sfwr Norwood, MA Bob Vandette      (617)-769-0850 RE
 22. PCLUG St. Louis, MO Ken Kaplan             (314)-576-2743
 25. Take-A-Byte Anaheim, CA Robert Collins     (714)-995-2428
 26. MicroFonePC Fresno, CA Bob Robesky         (209)-227-2083 5p - 9a WE
 27. Daves_Fido Gardner, MA David Rene          (617)-632-1861
 28. World Control Baltimore, MD Rob White      (301)-653-2074
 31. HamRadioWest Riverside, CA John Warren     (714)-681-0974
 32. Artesia_BBS Artesia, CA George Gilbert     (213)-402-6217
 33. Rod_Smallwood  England Rod Smallwood       01144-635-4680
 34. CrossFire  Philadelphia, PA Todd Savar     (215)-565-7639
 35. ConsultNet  Saratoga, CA Jim Turley        -DOWN-
 36. Rainbow_Data  Los Angeles, CA Don Brauns   (213)-204-2996
 38. Bill1000Jr Madison, WI Bill Thousand,Jr.   -DOWN-
 39. KarlRegier Reedley, CA Karl Reiger         -DOWN-
 40. RonCrain Birmingham, MI Ron Crain          (313)-646-5159 11p - 6a
 42. MetChem New Haven, CT Jon Bauer            (203)-281-7287 8p - 8a
 43. Seequa_Computer Odenton, MD Bob Depelteau  (301)-672-3627
 44. NECS Arlington, MA Dave Mitton             (617)-646-3610
 45. Midnight_DEC Boston, MA David Strickler    (617)-353-7528 12a - 5p
 46. Joes_Rainbow St. Mary, FL Joe Clayton      (305)-321-2369
 47. The_Workshop AnaheimHills,CA Brian Majewski(714)-974-6925
 48. El_Dorado Houston, TX Paul Wells           (713)-488-8771 RE
 49. NW/RBBS-PC  Portland, OR Doug Forman       (503)-233-6583
                                             or (503)-666-8265
 50. Crystal_Cavern Austin, TX Scott Ashcraft   (512)-263-5805
 51. DECUS_CENTRAL St. Louis, MO Sysops16,17,&22(314)-432-4129

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 52. TOPCC Thousand Oaks, CA Gary Vedvik        (805)-499-8378 4p - 8a WE
 53. SE_C-Board Woodstock, GA Ken Shackelton    (404)-928-1876
 54. CEL_Comm_1 Seattle, WA C.E. Langenberg     (206)-725-9413
 56. Denver_Fido Denver, CO Oscar Barlow        (303)-973-9338
 57. MCCPowers Northbrook, IL Russ French       (312)-480-8730
 58. PiCoSystems El Toro, CA Jim Baumgartner    (714)-855-3282 RE
 59. Washco_FidoNet Beaverton, OR Vic Bachulis  (503)-629-5581
 60. Artichoke Houston, TX Justin Marquez       (713)-870-8803 6p - 8a WE
 61. RAMS Rochester, MN John Pritchard          (507)-289-8452
 62. Data_Jockey Bellevue, WA Darrin Smith      (206)-643-0909 7p - 8a SU
 63. WCE Waterford, MI Bob Leffler              (313)-623-1089
 64. Graf_Spee Houston, TX Jay Maynard          (713)-530-2334 Irregular
 65. TWACS St. Louis, MO Tony Clark(See also #4)(314)-895-6471 RE
 66. Info*Net Costa Mesa, CA Richard Hart       (714)-642-4408
 67. DEC_Domain Lubbock, TX Alan Minchew        (806)-795-0102
 69. Sailboard Highland, MI Jim Kovalsky        (313)-887-7429
 71. Rosenburg_Express Rosenburg, TX Ken Collins(713)-342-9349
 72. Harry_Chesley San Francisco, CA H. Chesley (415)-563-2491
 73. Eagle-1 Ashland, MA Dave Hornbaker         (617)-881-6495 After 1/22
 74. The_Bears_Den Falls Church, VA Kurt Reisler(703)-671-0598 6a - 12p
 75. ThumbTech Plano, TX Matt Legare            (214)-985-7926
 77. GMCC Boulder, CO Kent Leonard              (303)-497-6968
 78. Living_Sober San Carlos, CA Rick G.        (415)-593-5583 Moving??
 79. DEC-WARE New York, NY Matt Kanter          (212)-535-8924
 80. Eldon_Ziegler Columbia, MD Eldon Ziegler   (301)-992-3835 RE
 81. PC-WORLD Philadelphia, PA Sal Marandola    (215)-465-2278 4p - ??
 82. DEC-House Cherry Hill, NJ Brian Sietz      (609)-429-6630 12a - 530p
 83. Harmer's_Hut Philadelphia,PA Brian Harmer  (215)-565-7639 No Inc FNet
 84. SCI-Fido Oakland, CA Mike Farren           -DOWN-
 85. Allens_Board Cincinnati, OH Allen Miller   (513)-579-2587
 86. Grummons_Fido Bethpage, NY Don Daniels     (516)-575-5838
 87. Deus_Ex_Machina San Diego, CA Bruce Webster(619)-286-7838
 88. Wizards_Tower Teterboro, NJ Karl Schinke   (201)-288-9076 5p - 8a WE
 89. Boondocks Rock Island, IL Jonathan Smith   (309)-794-0289
 90. MidNet UW_Madison, WI Mike Mansfield       (608)-233-8449
 91. The_DEAD_END Round Rock, TX Steve Sparks   (512)-255-1282
 92. PCUTILboard Detroit, MI Jon Tara           (313)-393-0527
 99. The_REAL_Fido San Francisco,CA Tom Jennings -UNPUBLISHED- RE,RT 1
104. Baby_BYTE/Net Peterborough, NH George Bond (603)-924-9820
108. Samson Rolling Meadows,IL Larry Miglore    (312)-991-8304 5p - 8a WE
115. Arquimedes Washington,DC Sam Hargadine     (202)-332-9512
*117.Jim_Filgo Jakarta, INDONESIA Jim Filgo    01162-21-372518
124. TimeLifeBks Alexandria, VA Eldon Ziegler   (703)-833-7355 RE
125. Radar's_Node Fairfax, VA Joel O'Rourke     (703)-978-0351 Irregular
130. Paul_Munson Costa_Mesa, CA Paul Munson     (714)-650-6422
200. Grinnell_Fido  Grinnell, IA Bob Stanis     (515)-236-2578 Down temp.
201. Ham_Radio_Net Newington, CT Ed Raso        (203)-665-1114
202. DEC-Line Boston, MA Bill McNeill           (617)-721-1688
203. Dark_Planet Branford, CT Peter Sashka      (203)-488-3440
204. Noble_House NYC, NY Jonathan Youngwood     (212)-534-8557 10p - 4p
205. Alex's_DragonDom NYC, NY Alexander Morris  (212)-496-7946
206. BlueStar Edmonds, WA Craig Derouen         (206)-745-5368 RE
207. Northern_Reaches New Haven, CT Geoff Hickey(203)-865-1794
208. Bruce's_Fido W. Hartford, CT Bruce Lomaski (203)-236-3761
300. WeyCoFidoByter Federal Way, WA Steve Butler(206)-924-2955 5p - 8a WE
301. Beyond_War Los Angeles, CA Andrew Kanter   (213)-477-5706
302. Don Quixote Rochester, MN  Pat George      (507)-288-8901 8p - 8a WE

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303. Strictly_Sfwr Honolulu, HI Mike Oya        (808)-944-0562 7p - 10a
304. Westlake_BBS Austin, TX Albert Nurick      (512)-327-7926 6p - 7a SU
305. The_Pacesetter Potomac, MD Brian Driscoll  (301)-299-3228
306. Left_Cartridge Cincinnati, OH Paul Martin  (513)-797-7040 RE
307. DalTex_FIDOnet Dallas, TX Chris Bradley    (214)-991-7934
308. Software_PLUS Cincinnati, OH Dave Schleper (513)-621-9273 7p - 9a
309. Marc's_FIDO Portland, OR Marc Frajola       -UNPUBLISHED- RE,RT 59
310. Daves_Annex Westminister, MA Dave Rene     (617)-874-4325 4p - 7a WE
311. The_Lair Altamonte Springs, FL Robert Hupf (305)-830-8494 430p-8a WE
312. Cinci_Comm_Net Fairfield, OH Jeff Perrigo  (513)-874-0226 9p - 7a
313. Mikes_Rainbow Garden Grove,CA Mike Hamilton(714)-537-7355
314. One_Paticular_Harbour Ft Worth,TX Cpt Utley(817)-294-7383
315. DD_Network Boston, MA Dana Long            (617)-536-4670 12a - 5p
                                                   On Weekends 12a - 10a
316. Miami's_1st_Fido Miami, FL Al de la Torre  (305)-554-4602
317. DEC-WARE_II Iselen, NJ David Horowitz      (201)-750-3748
318. PC_WeeK Needham, MA Garry Ray              (617)-449-4727
319. Tribury_Fido Waterbury, CT Phil Mongelluzzo(203)-574-2449 7p - 11p
                               On Weekends 10a - 10p plus FNet Nat'l Mail
320. Surprise_Pak Orange, CT David Hecht        (203)-795-0339
321. CANADA_1 Willowdale, ONT Vic Kass          (416)-226-9260
322. PTC_Net Mt Vernon, WA Arlen Fletcher       (206)-757-5233 5p - 7a WE
323. PC-Exploration Garland, TX Gary J. Carter  (214)-530-9143
324. UW_Hat Madison, WI Michael Mansfield       (608)-262-4469 8p - 8a WE
325. Quantum_BBS Potomac, MD Mike Merrell       (301)-340-2486
                                   Interim Sched. 3p Fri - 8a Mon WE Only
326. The_Barn_Board Cinncinati,OH Robert Emerson(513)-752-8248
327. Toronto_RCP/M_4 Toronto, ONT Jud Newell    (416)-231-0538 RE
328. Toronto_RCP/M_6 Toronto, ONT Jud Newell    (416)-231-1262 RE
329. Computer_Aide Tulsa, OK Mike Johnson       (918)-493-2137
330. Buzzboard Cambridge, MA Buzz Moschetti     (617)-577-8092
331. MSFIDO Los Angeles, CA Brian Casey         (213)-250-8085 5p - 830a WE
332. American_Conn Houston, TX David Reinsel    (713)-831-3768 5p - 7a WE
333. Rainbow_BBS Phoenix, AZ Jim Kashner        (602)-952-2146
                           12a - 4p;10p - 12a M thru F;12a - 8a on Weekends
334. Micro_Broker Denver, CO Oscar Barlow       (303)-534-5456
335. Phil's_Fido Gaithersburg, MD Phil Kim      (301)-921-0111
336. Berkshire Anaheim, CA Harry Lee            (714)-632-9117
337. Music-Terminal Cypress, CA Michael David   (714)-826-2986
338. RHS_BBS Wailuku, HI George Fontaine        (808)-244-9789
339. Midnight_Connection St Louis, MO Ray Weil  (314)-961-1585 6p - 830a WE
340. Leading_Edge Canton, MA Fred Federlein &   (617)-821-0649
                                     Bob Linehan
341. DASUG Denver, CO Jerry W Smith             (303)-431-0051
342. InaNet Ann Arbor, MI David Simmons         (313)-662-2184
343. PC_Interconnection Houston,TX David Reinsel(713)-955-8120
344. The_Dog_House Jacksonville, FL Pete Cascio (904)-721-3804
#345.Alligator_Board Gainsville, FL Sharon King  -UNPUBLISHED- RT 27,RE
#346.Bob_Spivak San Jose, CA Robert E Spivak    (408)-972-8164
#347.Dennis_Washburn Honolulu,HI Dennis Washburn(808)-486-0407

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